who had two great debate performances in south carolina that allowed gingrich to win and in the two debates in florida was aggressive, strong, it tough, commanding on stage, and basically backing gingrich into a corner. gingrich is a different opponent than barack obama is, but as you just said alex in this context, romney is going to be -- i think the zinger thing is overdone. i think he's going to be aggressive. i think he's going to be prosecutorial and i think the question for the president is whether both these guys, they're their own worst enemies. they both can -- romney can get wrangled and discombob beau lated and obama can be too pro lix, pro fe sore yal, i could go on. >> how very pro lix of you. >> and he could be he could seem smug and can seem dismissive and so in that open forum there, you're going to see interesting dynamics and it's why there's a lot of why as you put it pro fa lattic efforts that go with diddle earlier. >> and pro lix. >> plenty of sparks in this debate. >> but i also think too, let's not forget that the people that he has to win, for example, wome